Comments on: The challenges of explaining Web 2.0 http://www.nevillehobson.com/2007/11/14/the-challenges-of-explaining-web-20/ Business, Communication, Technology Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:15:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: The Social Starfish - Understanding Online Conversations — Who is Jon Ray? http://www.nevillehobson.com/2007/11/14/the-challenges-of-explaining-web-20/#comment-73689 The Social Starfish - Understanding Online Conversations — Who is Jon Ray? Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:27:27 +0000 http://www.nevillehobson.com/2007/11/14/the-challenges-of-explaining-web-20/#comment-73689 [...] 2.0? I commented on Neville Hobson’s blog a few days ago on the challenges of explaining Web 2.0. Seeing as it somewhat relates to what [...] [...] 2.0? I commented on Neville Hobson’s blog a few days ago on the challenges of explaining Web 2.0. Seeing as it somewhat relates to what [...]

]]> By: Web 2.0 from the communicator’s viewpoint : NevilleHobson.com http://www.nevillehobson.com/2007/11/14/the-challenges-of-explaining-web-20/#comment-73260 Web 2.0 from the communicator’s viewpoint : NevilleHobson.com Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:44:30 +0000 http://www.nevillehobson.com/2007/11/14/the-challenges-of-explaining-web-20/#comment-73260 [...] The challenges of explaining Web 2.0 [...] [...] The challenges of explaining Web 2.0 [...]

]]> By: Wessel http://www.nevillehobson.com/2007/11/14/the-challenges-of-explaining-web-20/#comment-73148 Wessel Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:37:01 +0000 http://www.nevillehobson.com/2007/11/14/the-challenges-of-explaining-web-20/#comment-73148 For me the definition of Web 2.0 lies within the following explanation. With Web 1.0 you used to go to the content, now with Web 2.0 the content come to you based on your preferences and requirements. You have more control on the information overload that exist. For me the definition of Web 2.0 lies within the following explanation.

With Web 1.0 you used to go to the content, now with Web 2.0 the content come to you based on your preferences and requirements. You have more control on the information overload that exist.

]]> By: The look of Web 2.0 : NevilleHobson.com http://www.nevillehobson.com/2007/11/14/the-challenges-of-explaining-web-20/#comment-73142 The look of Web 2.0 : NevilleHobson.com Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:06:31 +0000 http://www.nevillehobson.com/2007/11/14/the-challenges-of-explaining-web-20/#comment-73142 [...] The challenges of explaining Web 2.0 [...] [...] The challenges of explaining Web 2.0 [...]

]]> By: Jon Ray http://www.nevillehobson.com/2007/11/14/the-challenges-of-explaining-web-20/#comment-67851 Jon Ray Tue, 20 Nov 2007 07:57:25 +0000 http://www.nevillehobson.com/2007/11/14/the-challenges-of-explaining-web-20/#comment-67851 Web 2.0 describes a way to have more conversations in a more efficient manner. As applications get more complex on the back end, they become easier to use by front end users. The easier it is to have many conversations online, the smaller the barrier of entry for hesitant technology adopters (my mom, grand parents, 3-year olds). Therefore, it seems that the number of conversations I can have online is directly proportional to the ease of using the current technology available. Web 2.0 is a pairing of technolgies, all working with one another, that allow me to have more conversations using less effort. Web 2.0 describes a way to have more conversations in a more efficient manner. As applications get more complex on the back end, they become easier to use by front end users.

The easier it is to have many conversations online, the smaller the barrier of entry for hesitant technology adopters (my mom, grand parents, 3-year olds).

Therefore, it seems that the number of conversations I can have online is directly proportional to the ease of using the current technology available.

Web 2.0 is a pairing of technolgies, all working with one another, that allow me to have more conversations using less effort.

]]> By: Finally - Web 2.0 explained! : NevilleHobson.com http://www.nevillehobson.com/2007/11/14/the-challenges-of-explaining-web-20/#comment-67709 Finally - Web 2.0 explained! : NevilleHobson.com Sun, 18 Nov 2007 11:50:23 +0000 http://www.nevillehobson.com/2007/11/14/the-challenges-of-explaining-web-20/#comment-67709 [...] Forget all the corp-speak about "user-generated content" or - even worse - "platforms" and "applications." [...] [...] Forget all the corp-speak about "user-generated content" or - even worse - "platforms" and "applications." [...]

]]> By: neville http://www.nevillehobson.com/2007/11/14/the-challenges-of-explaining-web-20/#comment-67541 neville Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:28:26 +0000 http://www.nevillehobson.com/2007/11/14/the-challenges-of-explaining-web-20/#comment-67541 Here's another option to help you explain all this stuff - The Web 2.0 Bullshit Generator: <a href="http://www.emptybottle.org/bullshit/" rel="nofollow">http://www.emptybottle.org/bullshit/</a> May test someone's sense of humour more than anything else :) Here’s another option to help you explain all this stuff - The Web 2.0 Bullshit Generator:

http://www.emptybottle.org/bullshit/

May test someone’s sense of humour more than anything else :)

]]> By: neville http://www.nevillehobson.com/2007/11/14/the-challenges-of-explaining-web-20/#comment-67483 neville Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:10:58 +0000 http://www.nevillehobson.com/2007/11/14/the-challenges-of-explaining-web-20/#comment-67483 Rob, in conversations with business people, whenever I start using words like 'platform' or 'applications', I see eyes start to glaze over. For those types of conversation, I much prefer to focus on softer descriptions such as the slide in the post. Jon, that's one of the issues: confusing social media as an explanation of Web 2.0. And glad you're enjoying the book! Rob, in conversations with business people, whenever I start using words like ‘platform’ or ‘applications’, I see eyes start to glaze over. For those types of conversation, I much prefer to focus on softer descriptions such as the slide in the post.

Jon, that’s one of the issues: confusing social media as an explanation of Web 2.0.

And glad you’re enjoying the book!

]]> By: rob http://www.nevillehobson.com/2007/11/14/the-challenges-of-explaining-web-20/#comment-67410 rob Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:03:24 +0000 http://www.nevillehobson.com/2007/11/14/the-challenges-of-explaining-web-20/#comment-67410 Hi Neville, I'd disagree that it is difficult to define web 2.0. To do it, you just need to go back to the source - the guy that coined the term in the first place, Tim O'Reilly: http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2006/11/words_as_pointe_1.html "Web 2.0 is the move to the internet as platform, and an understanding of the rules for success on that new platform. First among those rules is building applications that harness network effects to get better the more that people use them." A great article explaining the web as platform is here (from the guy who founded Netscape): http://blog.pmarca.com/2007/09/the-three-kinds.html Cheers Rob http://livinginadigitalworld.com/ Hi Neville,

I’d disagree that it is difficult to define web 2.0. To do it, you just need to go back to the source - the guy that coined the term in the first place, Tim O’Reilly:

http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2006/11/words_as_pointe_1.html

“Web 2.0 is the move to the internet as platform, and an understanding of the rules for success on that new platform. First among those rules is building applications that harness network effects to get better the more that people use them.”

A great article explaining the web as platform is here (from the guy who founded Netscape):

http://blog.pmarca.com/2007/09/the-three-kinds.html

Cheers

Rob
http://livinginadigitalworld.com/

]]> By: Jon Hoel http://www.nevillehobson.com/2007/11/14/the-challenges-of-explaining-web-20/#comment-67400 Jon Hoel Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:51:22 +0000 http://www.nevillehobson.com/2007/11/14/the-challenges-of-explaining-web-20/#comment-67400 Hi Neville, Apart from being a catch-all for the technological aspects, another aspect I've seen discussed has been Web 2.0 as a set of ideals about how the web should be, and a mindset about using the web. I've also seen the term Web 2.0 [tools] used interchangably, with social media, though most people seem to view social media as a subset of Web 2.0. What are your thoughts on that? Am in the process of reading your book on podcasting - great job! Hi Neville,

Apart from being a catch-all for the technological aspects, another aspect I’ve seen discussed has been Web 2.0 as a set of ideals about how the web should be, and a mindset about using the web.

I’ve also seen the term Web 2.0 [tools] used interchangably, with social media, though most people seem to view social media as a subset of Web 2.0.

What are your thoughts on that?

Am in the process of reading your book on podcasting - great job!

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