Comments on: The CIPR ostrich http://www.nevillehobson.com/2006/08/25/the-cipr-ostrich/ Business, Communication, Technology Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:39:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: » The Tetchy Emperor Part II sixtysecondview: Sixty second interviews from pr, media and politics http://www.nevillehobson.com/2006/08/25/the-cipr-ostrich/#comment-8250 » The Tetchy Emperor Part II sixtysecondview: Sixty second interviews from pr, media and politics Fri, 22 Sep 2006 16:42:21 +0000 http://www.nevillehobson.com/2006/08/25/the-cipr-ostrich/#comment-8250 [...] Following on from my recent video blog regarding Colin Farrington’s leader in Profile magazine about blogging and social media I have just received this letter via snail mail from Mr Farrington himself where he cheerfully depolys the sixth form debating tactic of mischaracterising the argument against him. Good to know that older members of the CIPR have their champion. [...] [...] Following on from my recent video blog regarding Colin Farrington’s leader in Profile magazine about blogging and social media I have just received this letter via snail mail from Mr Farrington himself where he cheerfully depolys the sixth form debating tactic of mischaracterising the argument against him. Good to know that older members of the CIPR have their champion. [...]

]]> By: Ellee Seymour - MCIPR, PRESS CONSULTANT, JOURNALIST, POLITICAL AND PR BLOGGER. » More PR blogging shockwaves http://www.nevillehobson.com/2006/08/25/the-cipr-ostrich/#comment-7087 Ellee Seymour - MCIPR, PRESS CONSULTANT, JOURNALIST, POLITICAL AND PR BLOGGER. » More PR blogging shockwaves Fri, 01 Sep 2006 11:48:44 +0000 http://www.nevillehobson.com/2006/08/25/the-cipr-ostrich/#comment-7087 [...] This follows hot on the heels of Colin Farrington’s shock declaration that he was not “that keen” on blogs. He is director general of the CIPR, the UK’s major PR support organisation and clearly does not have his finger on the pulse. His comments sent shockwaves among leading PR bloggers. Here is an extract: [...] [...] This follows hot on the heels of Colin Farrington’s shock declaration that he was not “that keen” on blogs. He is director general of the CIPR, the UK’s major PR support organisation and clearly does not have his finger on the pulse. His comments sent shockwaves among leading PR bloggers. Here is an extract: [...]

]]> By: Simonsays http://www.nevillehobson.com/2006/08/25/the-cipr-ostrich/#comment-7035 Simonsays Wed, 30 Aug 2006 13:45:14 +0000 http://www.nevillehobson.com/2006/08/25/the-cipr-ostrich/#comment-7035 <strong>PR professionals need a social media Code of Conduct...</strong> Constantin Basturea reports that a debate is ranging over at Wikipedia about the use of ‘pay-for-edit’ firms writing clients’ entries. The debate was sparked by a US firm, MyWikiBiz, which charges clients $49 to produce a stub or $79 for... PR professionals need a social media Code of Conduct…

Constantin Basturea reports that a debate is ranging over at Wikipedia about the use of ‘pay-for-edit’ firms writing clients’ entries. The debate was sparked by a US firm, MyWikiBiz, which charges clients $49 to produce a stub or $79 for…

]]> By: Simon Wakeman - Walking with dinosaurs? http://www.nevillehobson.com/2006/08/25/the-cipr-ostrich/#comment-6960 Simon Wakeman - Walking with dinosaurs? Sun, 27 Aug 2006 19:22:04 +0000 http://www.nevillehobson.com/2006/08/25/the-cipr-ostrich/#comment-6960 [...] I’m not going to go into the pro-social media (and especially pro-blog) arguments here as they’ve already been far more capably articulated by others - including Neville Hobson, Simon Collister and Richard Bailey. [...] [...] I’m not going to go into the pro-social media (and especially pro-blog) arguments here as they’ve already been far more capably articulated by others - including Neville Hobson, Simon Collister and Richard Bailey. [...]

]]> By: neville http://www.nevillehobson.com/2006/08/25/the-cipr-ostrich/#comment-6939 neville Sun, 27 Aug 2006 07:46:37 +0000 http://www.nevillehobson.com/2006/08/25/the-cipr-ostrich/#comment-6939 Wholly out of touch, Simon. Doesn't reflect well on the CIPR. But I also think that, as Dominic says, views such as Farrington articulates will help the believers better focus the pros/cons arguments. Still, not a good situation overall. <a href="http://www.stuartbruce.biz/2006/08/ciprs_elected_o.html" rel="nofollow">Stuart has some very good points</a> in his post re CIPR policy and who should be talking about such things. Wholly out of touch, Simon. Doesn’t reflect well on the CIPR.

But I also think that, as Dominic says, views such as Farrington articulates will help the believers better focus the pros/cons arguments.

Still, not a good situation overall. Stuart has some very good points in his post re CIPR policy and who should be talking about such things.

]]> By: A PR Guru's Musings - Stuart Bruce http://www.nevillehobson.com/2006/08/25/the-cipr-ostrich/#comment-6878 A PR Guru's Musings - Stuart Bruce Sat, 26 Aug 2006 08:55:57 +0000 http://www.nevillehobson.com/2006/08/25/the-cipr-ostrich/#comment-6878 <strong>CIPR's elected officers must clarify policy...</strong> Colin Farrington has been at it again with his latest comments on blogs - he doesn't tackle any other forms of social media, but perhaps that's a good thing! I won't rehash the arguments about why Colin has got it... CIPR’s elected officers must clarify policy…

Colin Farrington has been at it again with his latest comments on blogs - he doesn’t tackle any other forms of social media, but perhaps that’s a good thing! I won’t rehash the arguments about why Colin has got it…

]]> By: Simon Collister http://www.nevillehobson.com/2006/08/25/the-cipr-ostrich/#comment-6872 Simon Collister Fri, 25 Aug 2006 22:20:34 +0000 http://www.nevillehobson.com/2006/08/25/the-cipr-ostrich/#comment-6872 Hi Neville There was a similar debate <a href="http://simoncollister.typepad.com/simonsays/2006/07/cipr_director_g.html" rel="nofollow">here (more than one post)</a> when Colin first made his comments. Aside from being out-of-touch with the wider industry in the UK, I really do wonder about Colin's own ignorance of the CIPR and its members. Colin's petulant outburst in the latest issue of Profile is then countered by not one, but two articles on blogging by Stephen "PR Blogger" Davies and the BBC's media correspondent, Torin Douglas. Hi Neville

There was a similar debate here (more than one post) when Colin first made his comments.

Aside from being out-of-touch with the wider industry in the UK, I really do wonder about Colin’s own ignorance of the CIPR and its members.

Colin’s petulant outburst in the latest issue of Profile is then countered by not one, but two articles on blogging by Stephen “PR Blogger” Davies and the BBC’s media correspondent, Torin Douglas.

]]> By: Dominic Jones http://www.nevillehobson.com/2006/08/25/the-cipr-ostrich/#comment-6868 Dominic Jones Fri, 25 Aug 2006 19:57:24 +0000 http://www.nevillehobson.com/2006/08/25/the-cipr-ostrich/#comment-6868 <em>I see a real conflict in the CIPR.</em> Doesn't this extend to the entire communication profession(s)? I saw it this week after a seminar I did for the Canadian Investor Relations Institute on trends for IR websites. I spent most of the time talking about blogs, podcasts, RSS, XBRL, social bookmarking etc. The feedback highlighted how the profession seems to be split between doubters and people who can't seem to get enough information about Web 2.0 and participatory communication. The doubters were in the minority, but they are vocal. On reflection, though, I think we need people like Farrington. They help to keep believers on their toes and make us question and hone our arguments, especially if they have well reasoned arguments themselves. I see a real conflict in the CIPR.

Doesn’t this extend to the entire communication profession(s)? I saw it this week after a seminar I did for the Canadian Investor Relations Institute on trends for IR websites. I spent most of the time talking about blogs, podcasts, RSS, XBRL, social bookmarking etc.

The feedback highlighted how the profession seems to be split between doubters and people who can’t seem to get enough information about Web 2.0 and participatory communication. The doubters were in the minority, but they are vocal.

On reflection, though, I think we need people like Farrington. They help to keep believers on their toes and make us question and hone our arguments, especially if they have well reasoned arguments themselves.

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