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		<title>By: Chrono Tron &#62;&#62; World Wide Weblog</title>
		<link>http://www.nevillehobson.com/2006/05/08/opml-sharing-needs-to-be-easier/#comment-6392</link>
		<dc:creator>Chrono Tron &#62;&#62; World Wide Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 10:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Power of OPML Sharing...&lt;/strong&gt;

If you&#8217;ve been tuning into the blogosphere 2.0 for the past 20 hours, you probably will be seeing one phrase/service-name all around you and it&#8217;s absolutely hot now. When I say hot, I mean it, with a big capital &#8220;H&#8221;. And that is...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Power of OPML Sharing&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve been tuning into the blogosphere 2.0 for the past 20 hours, you probably will be seeing one phrase/service-name all around you and it&#8217;s absolutely hot now. When I say hot, I mean it, with a big capital &#8220;H&#8221;. And that is&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: neville</title>
		<link>http://www.nevillehobson.com/2006/05/08/opml-sharing-needs-to-be-easier/#comment-1792</link>
		<dc:creator>neville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2006 22:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did exactly that, Lisa, but SYO gave me tha error that the file contained no feeds. That's when I thought of loading it into the OPML Editor to see if that program recognized the file as valid OPML and where I could create a copy as valid OPML.

Whatever the problem was it's not really resolved. I posted about it to the opml-support mail list, but no response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did exactly that, Lisa, but SYO gave me tha error that the file contained no feeds. That&#8217;s when I thought of loading it into the OPML Editor to see if that program recognized the file as valid OPML and where I could create a copy as valid OPML.</p>
<p>Whatever the problem was it&#8217;s not really resolved. I posted about it to the opml-support mail list, but no response.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.nevillehobson.com/2006/05/08/opml-sharing-needs-to-be-easier/#comment-1789</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2006 15:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neville, did you try just exporting the OPML file out of FeedDemon into a folder somewhere on your system and then just uploading it directly to Share Your OPML from there?  That's what I did and it worked.  

If you're putting it in the OPML editor just so you can pare things down, you can always ask FeedDemon to just export a specific channel group rather than the whole list of your subscriptions.  

Best of luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neville, did you try just exporting the OPML file out of FeedDemon into a folder somewhere on your system and then just uploading it directly to Share Your OPML from there?  That&#8217;s what I did and it worked.  </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re putting it in the OPML editor just so you can pare things down, you can always ask FeedDemon to just export a specific channel group rather than the whole list of your subscriptions.  </p>
<p>Best of luck!</p>
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		<title>By: A View from the Isle</title>
		<link>http://www.nevillehobson.com/2006/05/08/opml-sharing-needs-to-be-easier/#comment-1667</link>
		<dc:creator>A View from the Isle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 02:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Much ado about OPML...&lt;/strong&gt;

I'm a little late to Dave Winer's OPML sharing party.  I only uploaded my feeds (edited) yesterday.  I really held off because I was ......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Much ado about OPML&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;m a little late to Dave Winer&#8217;s OPML sharing party.  I only uploaded my feeds (edited) yesterday.  I really held off because I was &#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: neville</title>
		<link>http://www.nevillehobson.com/2006/05/08/opml-sharing-needs-to-be-easier/#comment-1657</link>
		<dc:creator>neville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 19:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jack.

What I sent you is exactly the file that FD exported. You say you're sure it came from somewhere else. Where else? That's the only OPML export I did yesterday, from FD.

As I mentioned in my forum post, it is the original file I imported into OPML Editor which I then made a copy of with 'save as...' What I sent you was that original file. Did something happen to it in OPML Editor? No idea. Did the file get corrupted somehow on my PC? Unlikely, but really no idea.

If you can't explain it, neither can I.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jack.</p>
<p>What I sent you is exactly the file that FD exported. You say you&#8217;re sure it came from somewhere else. Where else? That&#8217;s the only OPML export I did yesterday, from FD.</p>
<p>As I mentioned in my forum post, it is the original file I imported into OPML Editor which I then made a copy of with &#8217;save as&#8230;&#8217; What I sent you was that original file. Did something happen to it in OPML Editor? No idea. Did the file get corrupted somehow on my PC? Unlikely, but really no idea.</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t explain it, neither can I.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Brewster</title>
		<link>http://www.nevillehobson.com/2006/05/08/opml-sharing-needs-to-be-easier/#comment-1656</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Brewster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 19:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work in NewsGator technical support.

First thing - about the FD OPML export, as I mentioned in my forum post:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;I just tried this in 2.0.0.20&lt;/strong&gt; (.22 is now available) and the very first line in the OPML is:
&#60;opml version="1.1"&#62;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
(Meaning 2.0.0.20 is exporting correctly.)

I forwarded the OPML that you sent to us to Nick Bradbury to look at and it looks like it's not an FD-generated OPML.  This is based on two things:
- FD has always included the top-level OPML node which, as you reported, was missing from your file.
- Your OPML includes 'encoding="ISO-8859-1"' which has never been in a FeedDemon export.

We're pretty sure that OPML came from somewhere else.

As for getting your OPML from NewsGator Online, there are a couple ways to do this.  The first is a straight export as file download and is &lt;a href="http://newsgator.mykbpro.com/Article_43256.aspx" rel="nofollow"&gt;covered in this knowledge base article&lt;/a&gt;.

The &lt;a href="http://newsgator.mykbpro.com/Article_E7A4D.aspx" rel="nofollow"&gt;second method exposes your OPML from a URL&lt;/a&gt; for any program or website that supports importing OPML from a URL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work in NewsGator technical support.</p>
<p>First thing - about the FD OPML export, as I mentioned in my forum post:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>I just tried this in 2.0.0.20</strong> (.22 is now available) and the very first line in the OPML is:<br />
&lt;opml version=&#8221;1.1&#8243;&gt;</p></blockquote>
<p>(Meaning 2.0.0.20 is exporting correctly.)</p>
<p>I forwarded the OPML that you sent to us to Nick Bradbury to look at and it looks like it&#8217;s not an FD-generated OPML.  This is based on two things:<br />
- FD has always included the top-level OPML node which, as you reported, was missing from your file.<br />
- Your OPML includes &#8216;encoding=&#8221;ISO-8859-1&#8243;&#8216; which has never been in a FeedDemon export.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re pretty sure that OPML came from somewhere else.</p>
<p>As for getting your OPML from NewsGator Online, there are a couple ways to do this.  The first is a straight export as file download and is <a href="http://newsgator.mykbpro.com/Article_43256.aspx" rel="nofollow">covered in this knowledge base article</a>.</p>
<p>The <a href="http://newsgator.mykbpro.com/Article_E7A4D.aspx" rel="nofollow">second method exposes your OPML from a URL</a> for any program or website that supports importing OPML from a URL.</p>
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		<title>By: neville</title>
		<link>http://www.nevillehobson.com/2006/05/08/opml-sharing-needs-to-be-easier/#comment-1649</link>
		<dc:creator>neville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 14:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Easton, if you do install FD, you'll get the best of both worlds as it will sync with your NewsGator Online account, thus maintaining mirror feeds on your PC and on the web. Worthwhile.

And I agree with you - it's not about the numbers, it's about usefulness. Mind you, I'm sure I have just too many as I never even look at some, so they're in there consuming bandwidth every time FD syncs all feeds. I suppose I ought to do something about it really...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Easton, if you do install FD, you&#8217;ll get the best of both worlds as it will sync with your NewsGator Online account, thus maintaining mirror feeds on your PC and on the web. Worthwhile.</p>
<p>And I agree with you - it&#8217;s not about the numbers, it&#8217;s about usefulness. Mind you, I&#8217;m sure I have just too many as I never even look at some, so they&#8217;re in there consuming bandwidth every time FD syncs all feeds. I suppose I ought to do something about it really&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Easton Ellsworth</title>
		<link>http://www.nevillehobson.com/2006/05/08/opml-sharing-needs-to-be-easier/#comment-1647</link>
		<dc:creator>Easton Ellsworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 12:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I might have to download and install FD just to get this done ... not that I don't like the desktop version, but I just prefer the Web edition.  Thanks for following up on this Neville.

I used to have a Neville-sized fedreading list (thanks to my having imported all of Steve Rubel's, Robert Scoble's and Amy Gahran's feeds) and it took me a LONG time to pare that huge list down (getting rid of Scoble's local news, Amy's ego feeds etc. hehe).  Now I'm a slim 400 feeds or so.  It ain't the number, it's how useful it is to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I might have to download and install FD just to get this done &#8230; not that I don&#8217;t like the desktop version, but I just prefer the Web edition.  Thanks for following up on this Neville.</p>
<p>I used to have a Neville-sized fedreading list (thanks to my having imported all of Steve Rubel&#8217;s, Robert Scoble&#8217;s and Amy Gahran&#8217;s feeds) and it took me a LONG time to pare that huge list down (getting rid of Scoble&#8217;s local news, Amy&#8217;s ego feeds etc. hehe).  Now I&#8217;m a slim 400 feeds or so.  It ain&#8217;t the number, it&#8217;s how useful it is to you.</p>
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		<title>By: neville</title>
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		<dc:creator>neville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 09:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An update on the FeedDemon 2.0 issue with the OPML file export.

It looks as though there is a problem with FD, as exporting feeds to an OPML file with the new build of FD released yesterday (making it now version 2.0.0.22) works fine. So the answer appears to be - if you have the release version of FD (2.0.0.20), install the upgrade.

See this NewsGator FeedDemon support forum threrad:

http://www.newsgator.com/forum/shwmessage.aspx?ForumID=14&#038;MessageID=17745</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An update on the FeedDemon 2.0 issue with the OPML file export.</p>
<p>It looks as though there is a problem with FD, as exporting feeds to an OPML file with the new build of FD released yesterday (making it now version 2.0.0.22) works fine. So the answer appears to be - if you have the release version of FD (2.0.0.20), install the upgrade.</p>
<p>See this NewsGator FeedDemon support forum threrad:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newsgator.com/forum/shwmessage.aspx?ForumID=14&#038;MessageID=17745" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsgator.com/forum/shwmessage.aspx?ForumID=14&#038;MessageID=17745</a></p>
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		<title>By: neville</title>
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		<dc:creator>neville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 09:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was closer to 1,600 until recently, Sherilynne. Of course, I don't ever read anywhere near 1,200 feeds. Impossible.

I tend to subscribe to things that look interesting so I've accumulated lots of RSS feeds. My reading list, every day, is what I call my 'Primary 1' list that currently has 30 feeds. Some of those go in and out, so to speak. The core feeds in that list comprise 14, the ones I will read every day no matter what.

With all the other feeds, I scan some of them from time to time. But I really ought to do a bit of housekeeping. I could probably dispense with 1,000 of those feeds and not feel I'm missing something.

Which is of course why FD still contains 1,200 feeds - I don't want to think that I might miss something :)

How do you manage your feeds?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was closer to 1,600 until recently, Sherilynne. Of course, I don&#8217;t ever read anywhere near 1,200 feeds. Impossible.</p>
<p>I tend to subscribe to things that look interesting so I&#8217;ve accumulated lots of RSS feeds. My reading list, every day, is what I call my &#8216;Primary 1&#8242; list that currently has 30 feeds. Some of those go in and out, so to speak. The core feeds in that list comprise 14, the ones I will read every day no matter what.</p>
<p>With all the other feeds, I scan some of them from time to time. But I really ought to do a bit of housekeeping. I could probably dispense with 1,000 of those feeds and not feel I&#8217;m missing something.</p>
<p>Which is of course why FD still contains 1,200 feeds - I don&#8217;t want to think that I might miss something <img src='http://www.nevillehobson.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
How do you manage your feeds?</p>
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