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		<title>By: Blogger relations the right way at NevilleHobson.com</title>
		<link>http://www.nevillehobson.com/2006/03/10/disclosure-and-transparency-its-pr-101/#comment-772</link>
		<dc:creator>Blogger relations the right way at NevilleHobson.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Then&#160;we had the Edeleman campaign for Wal-Mart which illustrated some of the basic things you ought to do in blogger outreach and which were lacking in the Edelman example. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ProPr &#187; Blogger relations &#38; transparency: A must-listen/read for PR practitioners</title>
		<link>http://www.nevillehobson.com/2006/03/10/disclosure-and-transparency-its-pr-101/#comment-235</link>
		<dc:creator>ProPr &#187; Blogger relations &#38; transparency: A must-listen/read for PR practitioners</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For his part, Neville posted several times , arguing for full disclosure and transparency. One of Neville&#8217;s posts drew 29 comments. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: neville</title>
		<link>http://www.nevillehobson.com/2006/03/10/disclosure-and-transparency-its-pr-101/#comment-219</link>
		<dc:creator>neville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good point, Kami, and thanks for pointing out the PRSA code.

There's also the &lt;a href="http://www.iabc.com/about/code.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;IABC Code of Ethics&lt;/a&gt; which starts -

These principles are essential:

* Professional communication is legal.
* Professional communication is ethical.
* Professional communication is in good taste. 

Recognizing these principles, members of IABC will:

* engage in communication that is not only legal but also ethical and sensitive to cultural values and beliefs;
* engage in truthful, accurate and fair communication that facilitates respect and mutual understanding; and,
* adhere to the following articles of the IABC Code of Ethics for Professional Communicators. 

I'd say that the second point in the paragraph immediately above is especially relevant here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good point, Kami, and thanks for pointing out the PRSA code.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s also the <a href="http://www.iabc.com/about/code.htm" rel="nofollow">IABC Code of Ethics</a> which starts -</p>
<p>These principles are essential:</p>
<p>* Professional communication is legal.<br />
* Professional communication is ethical.<br />
* Professional communication is in good taste. </p>
<p>Recognizing these principles, members of IABC will:</p>
<p>* engage in communication that is not only legal but also ethical and sensitive to cultural values and beliefs;<br />
* engage in truthful, accurate and fair communication that facilitates respect and mutual understanding; and,<br />
* adhere to the following articles of the IABC Code of Ethics for Professional Communicators. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d say that the second point in the paragraph immediately above is especially relevant here.</p>
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		<title>By: Kami Huyse</title>
		<link>http://www.nevillehobson.com/2006/03/10/disclosure-and-transparency-its-pr-101/#comment-216</link>
		<dc:creator>Kami Huyse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 04:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really appreciate your efforts to boil this down and start to seperate it from Edelman.   I think the lesson is for all of us to learn and I agree that transparency is paramount.  I have included the PRSA Code of Ethics about transparency to show that this issue is not a new one in the PR community.  I am not implying Edelman broke any of these guideliunes, but I think it is important to see what many of us SAY we follow.  It is a pretty high standard:

DISCLOSURE OF INFORMATION
Open communication fosters informed decision making in a democratic society.

Intent
• To build trust with the public by revealing all information needed for responsible decision making.

Guidelines
A member shall:
• Be honest and accurate in all communications.
• Act promptly to correct erroneous communications for which the member is responsible.
• Investigate the truthfulness and accuracy of information released on behalf of those represented.
• Reveal the sponsors for causes and interests represented.
• Disclose financial interest (such as stock ownership) in a client’s organization.
• Avoid deceptive practices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really appreciate your efforts to boil this down and start to seperate it from Edelman.   I think the lesson is for all of us to learn and I agree that transparency is paramount.  I have included the PRSA Code of Ethics about transparency to show that this issue is not a new one in the PR community.  I am not implying Edelman broke any of these guideliunes, but I think it is important to see what many of us SAY we follow.  It is a pretty high standard:</p>
<p>DISCLOSURE OF INFORMATION<br />
Open communication fosters informed decision making in a democratic society.</p>
<p>Intent<br />
• To build trust with the public by revealing all information needed for responsible decision making.</p>
<p>Guidelines<br />
A member shall:<br />
• Be honest and accurate in all communications.<br />
• Act promptly to correct erroneous communications for which the member is responsible.<br />
• Investigate the truthfulness and accuracy of information released on behalf of those represented.<br />
• Reveal the sponsors for causes and interests represented.<br />
• Disclose financial interest (such as stock ownership) in a client’s organization.<br />
• Avoid deceptive practices.</p>
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		<title>By: neville</title>
		<link>http://www.nevillehobson.com/2006/03/10/disclosure-and-transparency-its-pr-101/#comment-195</link>
		<dc:creator>neville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2006 11:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Niall, thanks for such forthright commentary. It's very good to know that Hill &#038; Knowlton at least sees the fundamental issue and what is the right thing to do.

You have a very good point about building relationships. The word 'pitch' is at best a misnomer, I believe, in that it sounds like an activity that's as impersonal and controlled as the mass outreach that PR's been doing for years with the media.

While this new thing that we're now calling blogger relations is still being developed, and mistakes will undoubtedly be made during the learning curve, it does include the basic principles of common-sense behaviours, eg, full disclosure of interest. And, by the way, that's a two-say street - disclosure must happen from both sides.

I'm also far from convinced about the current street wisdom which says that all bloggers are some kind of separate tribe who will shaft you at the drop of a hat as they pursue their anarchic ways as part of a "I'm a blogger and I do what I want" approach to their dealings with business people.

Some will, of course, but building relationships is a two-way process and requires mutual trust and respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Niall, thanks for such forthright commentary. It&#8217;s very good to know that Hill &#038; Knowlton at least sees the fundamental issue and what is the right thing to do.</p>
<p>You have a very good point about building relationships. The word &#8216;pitch&#8217; is at best a misnomer, I believe, in that it sounds like an activity that&#8217;s as impersonal and controlled as the mass outreach that PR&#8217;s been doing for years with the media.</p>
<p>While this new thing that we&#8217;re now calling blogger relations is still being developed, and mistakes will undoubtedly be made during the learning curve, it does include the basic principles of common-sense behaviours, eg, full disclosure of interest. And, by the way, that&#8217;s a two-say street - disclosure must happen from both sides.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also far from convinced about the current street wisdom which says that all bloggers are some kind of separate tribe who will shaft you at the drop of a hat as they pursue their anarchic ways as part of a &#8220;I&#8217;m a blogger and I do what I want&#8221; approach to their dealings with business people.</p>
<p>Some will, of course, but building relationships is a two-way process and requires mutual trust and respect.</p>
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		<title>By: Niall Cook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niall Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2006 09:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My initial reaction to this story (or non-story, depending on your own PoV) was to dismiss it as old media making mountains out of new media molehills. I still think there is some truth in that.

But having had chance to read the actual email chains (something I am concerned that those who commented on this issue didn't bother to do), I'm coming round to Neville's way of thinking. As a result, I've been reviewing every interaction I have had with bloggers on behalf of a client. I think (hope) we've been forthright in our disclosure.

That said, let's not just assume (as the Blogging for Business bullets appear to suggest) that all agencies want to do is pitch bloggers in the hope they might write about our client or their latest widget. We don't. In fact, we're having a struggle stopping our clients from doing exactly that!

Some of us realise that it's about building relationships, and in order for that to happen there has to be some kind of engagement. And yes, sometimes we will have to do that on behalf of our clients if we're going to facilitate any kind of meaningful conversation (with full disclosure of course).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My initial reaction to this story (or non-story, depending on your own PoV) was to dismiss it as old media making mountains out of new media molehills. I still think there is some truth in that.</p>
<p>But having had chance to read the actual email chains (something I am concerned that those who commented on this issue didn&#8217;t bother to do), I&#8217;m coming round to Neville&#8217;s way of thinking. As a result, I&#8217;ve been reviewing every interaction I have had with bloggers on behalf of a client. I think (hope) we&#8217;ve been forthright in our disclosure.</p>
<p>That said, let&#8217;s not just assume (as the Blogging for Business bullets appear to suggest) that all agencies want to do is pitch bloggers in the hope they might write about our client or their latest widget. We don&#8217;t. In fact, we&#8217;re having a struggle stopping our clients from doing exactly that!</p>
<p>Some of us realise that it&#8217;s about building relationships, and in order for that to happen there has to be some kind of engagement. And yes, sometimes we will have to do that on behalf of our clients if we&#8217;re going to facilitate any kind of meaningful conversation (with full disclosure of course).</p>
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		<title>By: neville</title>
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		<dc:creator>neville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 22:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Icky's a good word, John. A nice technical term!

This really should be a non-story. Disclosure, transparency - basic PR learning things, for goodness' sake!

Still, it's a useful exercise in thinking about such basic issues and articulating points of view. Part of a broad and informative debate, in fact, taking into account everyone's posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Icky&#8217;s a good word, John. A nice technical term!</p>
<p>This really should be a non-story. Disclosure, transparency - basic PR learning things, for goodness&#8217; sake!</p>
<p>Still, it&#8217;s a useful exercise in thinking about such basic issues and articulating points of view. Part of a broad and informative debate, in fact, taking into account everyone&#8217;s posts.</p>
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		<title>By: John Wagner</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Wagner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 22:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neville:

You've hit the nail on the head ... the onus for transparency falls on the professional agency, not the amateur blogger. 

It would have been very easy to do this right, and then I think we WOULD have a non-story.

However -- as Kami has stated so well -- Edelman became the issue. Why?  Because the whole approach is just icky (I tried to find a more sophisticated word for it but failed).

If those e-mails had come from Podunk PR in Evansville, Ind., the entire PR blogosphere would be having a field day kicking the poor SOB who wrote them around the internets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neville:</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve hit the nail on the head &#8230; the onus for transparency falls on the professional agency, not the amateur blogger. </p>
<p>It would have been very easy to do this right, and then I think we WOULD have a non-story.</p>
<p>However &#8212; as Kami has stated so well &#8212; Edelman became the issue. Why?  Because the whole approach is just icky (I tried to find a more sophisticated word for it but failed).</p>
<p>If those e-mails had come from Podunk PR in Evansville, Ind., the entire PR blogosphere would be having a field day kicking the poor SOB who wrote them around the internets.</p>
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		<title>By: neville</title>
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		<dc:creator>neville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 21:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Gary, I appreciate your words. So let's work together on something :)

I saw your trackback and read your post. And very glad to see another voice calling out on this issue which is not really about Wal-Mart and Edelman but about common PR sense. precisely as you say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Gary, I appreciate your words. So let&#8217;s work together on something <img src='http://www.nevillehobson.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I saw your trackback and read your post. And very glad to see another voice calling out on this issue which is not really about Wal-Mart and Edelman but about common PR sense. precisely as you say.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Goldhammer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Goldhammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 20:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neville, for what it's worth, I would hire you in a heartbeat :-) As you may know (I finally got around to writing about this issue this morning and tracked back to your earlier post) I am one of the too few who agree with you. You are right -- this has little or nothing to do with "blogger relations" and everything to do with PR common sense. Any college freshman PR major could tell you that what Edelman's employees did was less than forthright -- or at least I hope any college freshman PR major could say that, otherwise the future of PR is in more trouble than I thought. 

Thanks again for your thoughtful and spot-on posts this week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neville, for what it&#8217;s worth, I would hire you in a heartbeat <img src='http://www.nevillehobson.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> As you may know (I finally got around to writing about this issue this morning and tracked back to your earlier post) I am one of the too few who agree with you. You are right &#8212; this has little or nothing to do with &#8220;blogger relations&#8221; and everything to do with PR common sense. Any college freshman PR major could tell you that what Edelman&#8217;s employees did was less than forthright &#8212; or at least I hope any college freshman PR major could say that, otherwise the future of PR is in more trouble than I thought. </p>
<p>Thanks again for your thoughtful and spot-on posts this week.</p>
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