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		<title>By: PR Works &#187; Did big PR agencies learn anything from l&#8217;affair Edel-Mart?</title>
		<link>http://www.nevillehobson.com/2006/03/09/a-whiff-of-window-dressing-in-wal-marts-blogger-relations-campaign/#comment-10741</link>
		<dc:creator>PR Works &#187; Did big PR agencies learn anything from l&#8217;affair Edel-Mart?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 23:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A lot has been written/blogged/podcasted on the latest Edelman/Wal-Mart online PR fiasco (Neville, Shel, Everyone, Richard, Rubel.) There&#8217;s no need to pile on, but one thought has been bugging me. With an earlier Wal-Mart blogger-relations transparency faux pas occurring fairly recently, I find it odd that history has repeated itself. I&#8217;m having trouble figuring out how after such a high-profile mis-step that the appropriate filter wasn&#8217;t put in place to ensure that online PR activities for Wal-Mart passed an internal Edelman sniff test. They have experts, why wouldn&#8217;t you run your strategy by them to make sure it adhered to best practices? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A lot has been written/blogged/podcasted on the latest Edelman/Wal-Mart online PR fiasco (Neville, Shel, Everyone, Richard, Rubel.) There&#8217;s no need to pile on, but one thought has been bugging me. With an earlier Wal-Mart blogger-relations transparency faux pas occurring fairly recently, I find it odd that history has repeated itself. I&#8217;m having trouble figuring out how after such a high-profile mis-step that the appropriate filter wasn&#8217;t put in place to ensure that online PR activities for Wal-Mart passed an internal Edelman sniff test. They have experts, why wouldn&#8217;t you run your strategy by them to make sure it adhered to best practices? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ProPr &#187; Blogger relations &#38; transparency: A must-listen/read for PR practitioners</title>
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		<dc:creator>ProPr &#187; Blogger relations &#38; transparency: A must-listen/read for PR practitioners</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For his part, Neville posted several times , arguing for full disclosure and transparency. One of Neville&#8217;s posts drew 29 comments. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For his part, Neville posted several times , arguing for full disclosure and transparency. One of Neville&#8217;s posts drew 29 comments. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Crazy Politicos Rantings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crazy Politicos Rantings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Mar 2006 00:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;4 Sides of the Story, Pt. 2...&lt;/strong&gt;

Neville Hobson thought it was quite a good way of doing business by Edelman, but did have issues with how Marshall Manson worded some of the e-mails....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>4 Sides of the Story, Pt. 2&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Neville Hobson thought it was quite a good way of doing business by Edelman, but did have issues with how Marshall Manson worded some of the e-mails&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: neville</title>
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		<dc:creator>neville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2006 15:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Kathy.

You made a great point in your March 8 post - did Marshall Manson, the Edelman employee who did the emails, read one of the 250 copies of 'Naked Conversations' that CEO Richard Edelman &lt;a href="http://www.nevillehobson.com/2006/02/27/the-time-is-right-for-naked-conversations/" rel="nofollow"&gt;bought&lt;/a&gt;.

I'd guess not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Kathy.</p>
<p>You made a great point in your March 8 post - did Marshall Manson, the Edelman employee who did the emails, read one of the 250 copies of &#8216;Naked Conversations&#8217; that CEO Richard Edelman <a href="http://www.nevillehobson.com/2006/02/27/the-time-is-right-for-naked-conversations/" rel="nofollow">bought</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d guess not.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy Hale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy Hale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2006 13:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neville,

Your point that "No amount of communication will succeed..if there's an imbalance in ..message..and what people see the company doing is exactly right.  May I contribute to the conversation by a quote from a recent post at my site....

"When organizational identity is challenged by public criticism and is defended by massive PR campaigns, "The Battle of the Masks" is underway in the Blogosphere. Who tries to hold which mask (identity) on whom, and what public communication strategies will they use to do it? Whether individuals or organizations, we expect people to treat us as we claim to be, and people expect us to be who say we are. In our own practice and research, we find that conflict increases when (1) the “mask” or identity presented and the mask accepted don’t correspond, and (2) when “who you will be” at the end of a negotiation is more important than anything else you might get out of it. This blog is about authentic identity—created, monitored, negotiated, and sustained in the Internet world."   http://www.battleofthemasks.com/2006/02/

Kathy Hale</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neville,</p>
<p>Your point that &#8220;No amount of communication will succeed..if there&#8217;s an imbalance in ..message..and what people see the company doing is exactly right.  May I contribute to the conversation by a quote from a recent post at my site&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;When organizational identity is challenged by public criticism and is defended by massive PR campaigns, &#8220;The Battle of the Masks&#8221; is underway in the Blogosphere. Who tries to hold which mask (identity) on whom, and what public communication strategies will they use to do it? Whether individuals or organizations, we expect people to treat us as we claim to be, and people expect us to be who say we are. In our own practice and research, we find that conflict increases when (1) the “mask” or identity presented and the mask accepted don’t correspond, and (2) when “who you will be” at the end of a negotiation is more important than anything else you might get out of it. This blog is about authentic identity—created, monitored, negotiated, and sustained in the Internet world.&#8221;   <a href="http://www.battleofthemasks.com/2006/02/" rel="nofollow">http://www.battleofthemasks.com/2006/02/</a></p>
<p>Kathy Hale</p>
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		<title>By: neville</title>
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		<dc:creator>neville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2006 06:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn't that at the heart of what the blogger relations campaign is part of, Eric? "Repairing" their reputation, ie, changing perceptions of Wal-Mart?

I don't feel the way you do (no Wal-Mart here) but, from what I've been reading about Wal-Mart, I can understand why you feel that way. I have heard similar views from colleagues in the UK where Wal-Mart owns Asda, one of the big UK supermarket chains.

The important question, then, is this - how can PR help an organization if the foundation is unstable? No amount of communication will succeed in achieving the objective if there's an imbalance in what the messaging is saying and what people see the company doing.

Now there's a great PR challenge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t that at the heart of what the blogger relations campaign is part of, Eric? &#8220;Repairing&#8221; their reputation, ie, changing perceptions of Wal-Mart?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t feel the way you do (no Wal-Mart here) but, from what I&#8217;ve been reading about Wal-Mart, I can understand why you feel that way. I have heard similar views from colleagues in the UK where Wal-Mart owns Asda, one of the big UK supermarket chains.</p>
<p>The important question, then, is this - how can PR help an organization if the foundation is unstable? No amount of communication will succeed in achieving the objective if there&#8217;s an imbalance in what the messaging is saying and what people see the company doing.</p>
<p>Now there&#8217;s a great PR challenge.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Eggertson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Eggertson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2006 03:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neville:  

What's wrong with travelling to their HQ?  I don't like their business practices.

I don't need their advice on how to bypass a democratic union organizating drive by shutting down the only store to become unionized.  If I want to pick up those tactics, I can just go to the nearest schoolground and watch the bullies push little kids around.

They have an amazing system for maintaining inventory, and they do great work on employee morale.  I'm sure for someone else, it would be a great learning experience.

But it's not my cup of tea, and I didn't arrive at that opinion because I'm some ultra unionist, or because I'm a blogger.  In Canada, anyway, they've shown a willingness to intimidate their employees with the ultimate threat -- taking all their jobs away if they unionize.

No amount of blogger relations, public relations or reputation management will turn me into a fan, unless they change the way they operate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neville:  </p>
<p>What&#8217;s wrong with travelling to their HQ?  I don&#8217;t like their business practices.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t need their advice on how to bypass a democratic union organizating drive by shutting down the only store to become unionized.  If I want to pick up those tactics, I can just go to the nearest schoolground and watch the bullies push little kids around.</p>
<p>They have an amazing system for maintaining inventory, and they do great work on employee morale.  I&#8217;m sure for someone else, it would be a great learning experience.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s not my cup of tea, and I didn&#8217;t arrive at that opinion because I&#8217;m some ultra unionist, or because I&#8217;m a blogger.  In Canada, anyway, they&#8217;ve shown a willingness to intimidate their employees with the ultimate threat &#8212; taking all their jobs away if they unionize.</p>
<p>No amount of blogger relations, public relations or reputation management will turn me into a fan, unless they change the way they operate.</p>
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		<title>By: Disclosure and transparency: It&#8217;s PR 101 at NevilleHobson.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Disclosure and transparency: It&#8217;s PR 101 at NevilleHobson.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 19:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Our little PR corner of the blogosphere is awash with opinion about the Wal-Mart/Edelman blogger outreach campaign stemming from a story in the New York Times on Tuesday. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Our little PR corner of the blogosphere is awash with opinion about the Wal-Mart/Edelman blogger outreach campaign stemming from a story in the New York Times on Tuesday. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Below the Fold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Below the Fold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 18:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Chosen One: Richard Edelman and the Path to the PR Promised Land...&lt;/strong&gt;

 I was glad to hear Richard Edelman say that journalists are no longer Gods (thanks for the heavenly tip, Media Orchard). I assume he meant print media and not CNN's Anderson Cooper, who not only is a God, but...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Chosen One: Richard Edelman and the Path to the PR Promised Land&#8230;</strong></p>
<p> I was glad to hear Richard Edelman say that journalists are no longer Gods (thanks for the heavenly tip, Media Orchard). I assume he meant print media and not CNN&#8217;s Anderson Cooper, who not only is a God, but&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kami Huyse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kami Huyse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 16:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According the the conversaton over at &lt;a href="http://www.krempasky.com/?p=1270" rel="nofollow"&gt;Krempasky's site &lt;/a&gt; (Edelman account rep for WalMart), WalMart is trying to give bloggers the same access as MSM.  I think this is a good idea.  He even says he thinks a few will take him up on it, which amazes me since they will have to pay for it themselves, in contrast to what was said in the original e-mails inthe NYT piece.  I agree that as PR folk, we need to look at this from a lessons learned standpoint, rather than an anti or pro-WalMart stance.  (Full Disclosure: I spend about 1/3 of my monthly household budget at WalMart).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According the the conversaton over at <a href="http://www.krempasky.com/?p=1270" rel="nofollow">Krempasky&#8217;s site </a> (Edelman account rep for WalMart), WalMart is trying to give bloggers the same access as MSM.  I think this is a good idea.  He even says he thinks a few will take him up on it, which amazes me since they will have to pay for it themselves, in contrast to what was said in the original e-mails inthe NYT piece.  I agree that as PR folk, we need to look at this from a lessons learned standpoint, rather than an anti or pro-WalMart stance.  (Full Disclosure: I spend about 1/3 of my monthly household budget at WalMart).</p>
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